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Date: Mon, 22 Aug 94 18:00:51 PDT From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu> Errors-To: Info-Hams-Errors@UCSD.Edu Reply-To: Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu Precedence: Bulk Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #948 To: Info-Hams Info-Hams Digest Mon, 22 Aug 94 Volume 94 : Issue 948 Today's Topics: Building a J-Pole Antenna Cheap Aircraft Scanner Wanted FT530 breaks squelch when it shouldn't IC-970H use for AMSATS learning CW (3 msgs) Mobile Radio in Dodge Caravan? Questions: Digital Scanning, Cellphones, Transmissions (2 msgs) Rigs in Dish Washers The VOA discussion (2 msgs) Wanted: TM-733 Programming Guide Wimpy Audio Output - HT's & Mobiles Send Replies or notes for publication to: <Info-Hams@UCSD.Edu> Send subscription requests to: <Info-Hams-REQUEST@UCSD.Edu> Problems you can't solve otherwise to brian@ucsd.edu. Archives of past issues of the Info-Hams Digest are available (by FTP only) from UCSD.Edu in directory "mailarchives/info-hams". We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 22 Aug 94 11:12:05 EDT From: psinntp!main03!drager.com!landisj@uunet.uu.net Subject: Building a J-Pole Antenna To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <dougfree.1127650614A@news.onramp.net>, dougfree@onramp.net (Doug Freeman) writes: > In Article <32tndl$j1q@prodsql.prodigy.bc.ca>, Paul Antaki > <pantaki@prodigy.bc.ca> wrote: >>I'm sorry if this has been requested before. I went looking for a better >>anternna for my HT and someone suggested I just build a j-pole for home >>use. I don't really know where to look for instructions. If someone has >>instructions/parts list I would really appreciate a copy. >> >>Paul > In the August "CQ" magazine on page #42 there is a excellent plan for a > 2mtr. JPole. It is made of 300ohm twin lead simular to MFJs but cut to > compensate to be mounted in PVC pipe. It sports 3db gain across 2mtrs. with > low SWR (>1.2:1) and will transmit on 440 but the radiation angle is fairly > high for all but the closer repeaters. > Very good instructions make this design easy to build and the finished > product is around 4' and very easy to mount. One misprint is the top PVC > measurement. Instead of 43 3/8" it should be 44 3/8". My second cut of > pipe fit perfectly. The coax. mount calls for a SO-239 pass through socket > which is hard to find so I took a square panel mount and trimmed the corners > off to fit. Put a little coax seal around it before tightening and you have > a nice mount. > The performance was so good that I have 3 friends that have allowed me > to make them one. OK since the cost is only a couple of bucks. > 73s, > Doug Freeman You will have better results with 450 ohm ladder line. Of course the dimensions are different. I have paper instructions at home. If you're interested I'll try to remember to look them up tonight, and type them up. Joe - AA3GN -- Joe Landis - System & Network Mgr. - North American Drager Co. Telford, PA landisj@drager.com | uupsi5!main03!landisj | AA3GN@WA3TSW.#EPA.PA.USA Opinions are mine only, and do not reflect those of my employer. ...Munging Until No Good... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 17:49:15 GMT From: hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!ruacad!repair@uunet.uu.net Subject: Cheap Aircraft Scanner Wanted To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Looking for a an old scanner you may have around and not using. Something with the aircraft band. Price? Please write: rmccalli@ruacad.ac.runet.edu - Randy (K2VW) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 19:50:32 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!howland.reston.ans.net!torn!news.ccs.queensu.ca!venus!jupiter!pas@network.ucsd.edu Subject: FT530 breaks squelch when it shouldn't To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Hello, A friend of mine bought a Yaseu FT530 handheld and it seems to behave differently than mine. In his, the squelch seems to open momentarily when the radio pauses on a channel while scanning. This channel is set to tone squelch decode at a tone of 107.2 Hz. Most of the time it has a data transmission and on occasion, voice with the PL tone added. The voice is what he is interested in hearing. The result is an annoying data noise burst from the radio. The behavior is irregular (it doesn't do this every time it scans the channel). My radio does not do this. My question: is this, by chance a known problem with the FT530? Sending it back is a last resort... 73, Peter O Peter A. Stokes ____________ Voice & Voice mail: (613) 545-2923 <^- Engineering Applications Support __________ FAX: (613) 548-8104 \/\ Canadian Microelectronics Corporation ______ Net: stokes@cmc.ca \ Kingston, Ontario, CANADA ______________ Radio: VE3ZXT @ VE3CDY "Don't believe any advice you read" ------------------------------ Date: 22 Aug 94 15:18:53 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: IC-970H use for AMSATS To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Send me a SASE and I will mail you the mods. The 970 works fine at 9600. 73, Roy D. Welch 908 Dutch Mill Dr. Manchester, NO 63011 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 15:12:03 GMT From: spstimes.sps.mot.com!mogate!newsgate!news@uunet.uu.net Subject: learning CW To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <3397dj$rsb@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills) writes: > ... > I'm curious to know whether those who learn it from computer programs > that send perfect code in a quiet room find it a shock once they get > on the air and have to contend with real people sending code, fading > signals, QRM, all that stuff? Is it easy to make the transition to > the real world? > ... I dunno for sure, Derek, but my guess is that very few people actually use it on the air. They learn it to pass the tests (which are sent in perfectly formed, non-QRM'ed fashion) and then don't use it. There are exceptions, of course. No flames, please...just making an observation with no value judgements attached. 73... Mark AA7TA ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 16:49:25 GMT From: swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uhog.mit.edu!news.kei.com!eff!news.duke.edu!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!ukma!rsg1.er.usgs.gov!stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV!xdepc.@ihnp4.ucsd.edu Subject: learning CW To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <1994Aug22.151203.1428@newsgate.sps.mot.com> rapw20@email.sps.mot.com (Mark Monninger) writes: >> I'm curious to know whether those who learn it from computer programs >> that send perfect code in a quiet room find it a shock once they get >> on the air and have to contend with real people sending code, fading >> signals, QRM, all that stuff? Is it easy to make the transition to >> the real world? >> ... >I dunno for sure, Derek, but my guess is that very few people actually use it >on the air. They learn it to pass the tests (which are sent in perfectly >formed, non-QRM'ed fashion) and then don't use it. There are exceptions, of >course. >No flames, please...just making an observation with no value judgements >attached. >73... Mark AA7TA No flames, but please... most vet. cw operators will QRS for new operators transitioning into real air time. If you are in range, check in on 40 M CW novice band. I work lots of Novice stations there and also new Generals at 5,10,15 etc. whatever speed they want to work, mostly during weekends but also some week day afternoons and evenings. CW ops that will not QRS for new operators, and there are some, are like some of the self-important clowns on Usenet, not worth talking to anyhow. Most ops will QRS, particularly if you send (at your speed) "PSE RPT ES QRS BK". Still too fast? Send it again. Oh, and there is plenty of QRM, fading, etc. there so you get the full effect. 73, C. C. (Clay) Wynn, N4AOX wyn@ornl.gov ========================================================================= = Cooperation requires participation. Competition teaches cooperation. = ========================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 18:38:25 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!swiss.ans.net!upsnews.ups.com!casey!nrd1pxm@network.ucsd.edu Subject: learning CW To: info-hams@ucsd.edu When I learned the code in '76 (1976 :) ), my buddy, WB2BEJ and I went to a bar with music, noise, etc and, over a few beers, he sent stuff from the local paper and I started copying best I could. The result? Passed the general written but missed the general code by 1 question:(. I'm starting again to relearn the code, this time via computer, but my heart just isn't quite in it. -- ============================================================================== Peter Martin UPS Danbury, CT (203) 731-6324 nrd1pxm@nrd.ups.com Real Life Home: Kent, WA (206) 631-5478 SCCA '83 Mazda RX7 #24 ITA '91 RX-7 ragtop '95 SSC Neon WD9HAD ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 19:44:15 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!mvb.saic.com!mauckc.saic.com!mauckc@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Mobile Radio in Dodge Caravan? To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In article <CuLDnw.36G@ceco.ceco.com> Charles R. Sufana, sufana@ceco.ceco.com writes: >I was then able to run DC power cable down through the fender on the >passenger side and fed it through the hole in the >hose/grommet. You can then pull the wire through a hole in the door frame and >into the interior with no problem. There also should be 12v under the drivers seat for the adjustable drivers seat. Hope this helps. Cliff Mauck KE4PDS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 17:24:59 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!pipex!lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk!warwick!uknet!cix.compulink.co.uk!jnewgas@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Questions: Digital Scanning, Cellphones, Transmissions To: info-hams@ucsd.edu > Article: 36305 of rec.radio.amateur.misc > Xref: cix.compulink.co.uk rec.radio.scanner:10057 > rec.radio.amateur.misc:36305 rec.radio.amateur.policy:8909 > Path: > cix.compulink.co.uk!uknet!EU.net!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!nic-nac.CSU. In Article et!g9153402 From: g9153402@huey.csun.edu (Berton Corson) He asks: > Even sellersof cellular service, just push the cheap phones, since their profits > are very little on the phones, but huge on selling those one and > two year cellular service contracts. Those analog phones have become > almost disposable, with less worry about losing or breaking them. Not > so, with the digital ones. Actually that is not what has happened here in UK. Digital Cellular phones have become the low cost variety ! Some are marketed at consumers. I have a "One2One" phone .. for $25 per month I get free calls throughout to anywhere in the London or adjoining areas from 7.)) pm to 7;00 am and all weekend. Day rates are about 45 cents/minute. There are competing digital services and they are grwoing fast. Clearer speech/digital messages etc. The old analogue providers are having to introduce ditial serives to compete. Oh yes ... they just sound like a buzzing noise on a scanner, my frequency counter won't read ther frequency even though it is in range ( 1.8 GHz). 73's de John ... G7LTQ in UK (or N2UYI when on vacation/business in USA) Packet address: G7LTQ@GB7NXL.#32.GBR.EU ------------------------------ Date: 22 Aug 1994 13:23:28 -0500 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!convex!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Questions: Digital Scanning, Cellphones, Transmissions To: info-hams@ucsd.edu In <1994Aug20.140335.9766@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes: >There are two methods competing for digital cellular. One is based >on TDMA, and the other is spread spectrum. Since with SS each phone will >have it's own spreading sequence keyed to it's serial number, you'd have >to try millions of combinations to luck onto the correct one for a given >phone. If TDMA is chosen, you'll have to break the supervisory circuit to >track the time slice as the phone hops from cell to cell. And all of this >would be very illegal of course. >Gary Wouldn't SS be a pain to orchestrate being that cell sites use specific frequencies per site or am I missing something here? Are the digital phones going to use the same freq spectrum? (~824-849) David ------------------------------ Date: 22 Aug 1994 15:59:56 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!jwc@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Rigs in Dish Washers To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Robert Carpenter (rc@itchy.ncsl.NIst.GOV) wrote: : Back In The Olde Days, Tektronix the 'scope people had a tub of water and : detergent at their repair sites. When a scope can in for repair, it first : went into the tub for a wash, then hose down and dry. : Now, no other company built things the way Tektronix did Way Back Then : (ceramic terminal strips, etc), and I doubt that anyone does it that way : now. We still keep a spray booth (water) and a spray bottle of detergent for cleaning the older stuff. All the older HP gear could be cleaned this way. Particularly switches. We dry in a small heat chamber. John (N0KIC) Hp MS&S ------------------------------ Date: 23 Aug 94 00:12:00 GMT From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu Subject: The VOA discussion To: info-hams@ucsd.edu As someone working and living in Brussels, Belgium, I sometimes listen to the VOA. VOA comes strong on various frequencies as well as on satellite. VOA news programs are US inclined, with frequent 'the following broadcast represents the views of the US government' prefaces to various programs. VOA output is aimed at areas that may seem to be under, or about to be, under US influence. There is more output to Africa than to Europe for example. The fact that VOA may be seen as propaganda, may make its output to the US population immaterial. No point in providing information to people that already know it. Apart from its political theme, VOA has superb science programs as well as great Jazz music programs. Thats for radio, VOA TV, or rather Worldnet as the TV service is called, also appears here. It can be picked up before the German Deutsche Welle Broadcast in Europe on Eutelsat Satellite and mainly carries McNeil Lehrer, Computer Chronicles and other PBS programs that are great. In addition, C band services are also available with additional material. Finally, there is VOA Europe, a specialized service for Europe in FM stereo via satellite. And for your information, as far as general programming is concerned, World Radio Network Inc, uses one of the MTV sound subcarriers on Europe's most popular satellite to carry broadcasts from various world broadcasters including NPR, Radio Australia, Radio Japan, Radio Sweden, Ireland, Radio Vienna, Radio Netherlands and more, rotated on a 24 hour basis. With great audio fidelity, and a cost of $200 for a complete satellite reception system, it may even beat a SW set. Best, Peter Vekinis, KC1QF/ON9CGV/EI4GV, Brussels ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 19:49:52 GMT From: spstimes.sps.mot.com!mogate!newsgate!news@uunet.uu.net Subject: The VOA discussion To: info-hams@ucsd.edu I'm not sure what VOA has to do with ham radio, but since the thread's been started... I caught the tail end of a segment on NPR last week about the VOA being on internet and that the audio from their newscasts is available. The commentator was playing some of the files. The VOA guy she was interviewing (don't remember the name but he's a honcho in their network services) said he couldn't give any info on how to access or play the files since they were intended only for use outside the U.S. (seems kinda silly to me but that's probably their charter, no more, no less). It didn't stop the NPR person, she just went ahead and connected and played some of them. Then I remembered reading something here on the net about the service but couldn't remember when or in what group. Unfortunately I missed the first part of the segment and didn't hear the address of the VOA server or what was being used to connect to it. I thought I'd give it a try too, if I could. Anybody have any more info about it? 73... Mark AA7TA ------------------------------ Date: 22 Aug 1994 14:22:11 -0500 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!austin.lockheed.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Wanted: TM-733 Programming Guide To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Anyone seen a 'cheat-sheet' for the Kenwood TM-733A? Just purchased one last week and find that you have to read the whole manual. Hate to have to carry the manual in the car to make changes on the fly. Unlike Yaesu Kenwood does not provide a quick reference cheat-sheet. Noticed a neat FT-530 Programming Guide by Peter A. Stokes, ve3zxt. Looking for something like that for the TM-733. Thanks Dick Kriss, KD5VU kd5vu@austin.lockheed.com ------------------------------ Date: 22 Aug 1994 14:52:51 -0500 From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!nic-nac.CSU.net!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!austin.lockheed.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu Subject: Wimpy Audio Output - HT's & Mobiles To: info-hams@ucsd.edu Noticed several of the new rigs, HT's and Mobiles, have wimpy audio output. Adding an external speaker helps but has anyone tried using one of the amplifed speakers? Dick Kriss KD5VU ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Aug 1994 18:12:01 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news1.oakland.edu!rcsuna.gmr.com!kocrsv01!c21rag@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <1994Aug20.174007.11384@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, <777510136snz@arkas.demon.co.uk>, <1994Aug22.014457.20251@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>╙ Subject : Re: Does 73 Magazine have In article <1994Aug22.014457.20251@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes: > In article <777510136snz@arkas.demon.co.uk> Michael@arkas.demon.co.uk writes: > >Ham Radio magazine. Haven't picked up a copy for years. Is it still published? > > Sadly, no. CQ bought it and closed it. All they wanted was to assume the > subscriber list to temporarily boost their circulation figures and enhance > ad revenue. I suspect few _Ham Radio_ subscribers renewed CQ after their > subscriptions ran out. I too mourn the demise of HR and can confirm Gary's suspicion to the extent that this former HR subscriber did not renew his subscription to CQ. I have often wished for a compilation in book form of W1JR's VHF/UHF World columns from HR, Even though I have all the issues, I would gladly buy a book just to have all of them in one easily accessible place. I don't suppose anybody knows of such a publication? Roger Grady K9OPO c21rag@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com Delco Electronics Corp. Kokomo, IN "All information and opinions are personal unless otherwise stated." ------------------------------ Date: 22 Aug 1994 15:40:30 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!jwc@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <1994Aug18.001214.21682@gsm001.mendelson.com>, <333ge5$5k7@newsserv.cs.sunysb.edu>, <1994Aug20.203733.25104@gsm001.mendelson.com> Subject : Re: Info on Code Quick : Code Quick works by making word associations with the letters. I : cannot recognize dih dih dah dit at any speed, but I can recognize the : phrase "did i FAIL it" at anything from 3 to 30 wpm. I cannot sustain : that rate, yet, but I am working on it. 20 years ago I started a class using this method and still to this day when i hear di di dah dit, I think "get a hair cut" before I think "F". I dropped out of that class before I had a chance to learn many of these IMHO this makes for slow code learning only and would only get in the way of advancing beyond 5 wpm. John, N0KIC (Havn't got pass 5 yet.) ------------------------------ Date: 22 Aug 1994 19:05:16 GMT From: lll-winken.llnl.gov!s07.es.llnl.gov!hunter@ames.arpa To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <keith.35.0009023A@radio.nl.nuwc.navy.mil>, <300@coutts.UUCP>, <barry.187.00154D86@indirect.com> Subject : Re: XYL Reactions (snicker- Kodak moment) (was Re: IC-751A HF Transceiver) I would be very hesitant to put any electronic equipment in a dishwasher. Don't forget that it is assembled with lead solder. I imagine that you will end up with measurable amounts of lead on your next load of dishes. Steven Hunter KC6RKV ------------------------------ Date: 22 Aug 1994 18:30:12 GMT From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uhog.mit.edu!news.kei.com!travelers.mail.cornell.edu!newstand.syr.edu!malamb@network.ucsd.edu To: info-hams@ucsd.edu References <1994Aug11.170225.24967@cc.usu.edu>, <32g78c$oc6@thecourier.cims.nyu.edu>, <CuxAKK.F08@news.Hawaii.Edu>u Subject : Re: VOA Internet Audio Debuts Aug. 15 Jeffrey Herman (jeffrey@kahuna.tmc.edu) wrote: : >|> > So, if we are in the states, we technically cannot download the files? : >|> : >|> Or tune the radio to VOA? : I called our US Information Agency office here in Honolulu a few years : ago and asked them to send me the VOA's bcst schedule; they said `No - : the VOA bcsts are not meant for domestic reception.' Only after I : explained that I was going to Viet Nam did they say `In that case, : then we CAN send you the schedule.' They explained their bcsts are : meant for both foreign listeners and overseas Americans. Very strange! Before I started getting VOA skeds off Internet, I used to send to VOA Frequency Management for schedules, and I never had any problem getting them. As I recall, frequency schedules and the engineering database schedule were never a problem, and I was also able to get English schedules. However, the "Voices" program guide, various other VOA publications, and the various VOA goodies like stickers, keychains and such were off limits due to the Charter, since I am an American living in the U.S.A. Of course, what the USIA office in Honolulu does and what VOA headquarters does may be two different matters altogether. Anyway, Dan Ferguson is kind enough to post schedules on this newsgroup, and that's a big help for a lot of us, I'm sure! 73-- Marie Lamb Replies to: malamb@mailbox.syr.edu (ignore any other address) ------------------------------ End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #948 ******************************